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A Ray of Sunshine in French: A message from Jean-Marc

Let's talk about Depression : broyer du noir

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Today's Word: broyer du noir

    : to feel defeated, demoralized, depressed


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broyer du noir. Quand quelqu'un est déprimé il voit tout en noir.
To feel dejected. When someone's depressed, the see everything in black.

A DAY IN A FRENCH LIFE...

I am discombobulated lately. Ce dernier temps, je chamboule... This happens when a series of things happen all at once. This week we are having our house painted, I have some writing deadlines, and many guests arriving. Bigger than this is my husband's recent depression (he has a history of it. It is debilitating. And you would never know it from appearances. Please pray.)

Also, I am anxious about the emails, requests and updates that I receive from readers. Please accept my sincere apologies for not answering all emails or being of much help. Please know that it is a great pleasure to read your letters, but that I am unable to answer. 

I resist writing these kinds of posts, and I fear the occasional troll response that would point out to all my readers what a perfect and priviledged life I have. Coincidentally, this is the same thing caring friends tell my husband. But it does not take away his depression. He knows he has a good life. And so do I.

Thanks for listening and for understanding. I recently read that writers write as a form of therapy. In which case, I am very lucky to have so many caring "thérapeutes" reading. Mille mercis. And thank you for praying for Jean-Marc. 

Amicalement,

Kristi

COMMENTS

 Today in the comments let's talk about depression. Many thanks for anything you can share, any encouragements you can give. Click here to comment

 

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Cindy

Kristi I am praying for dear Jean-Marc...for you both. My advice, professional therapy (talking), but sometimes a medical problem or chemical imbalance causes depression and drugs are needed, if only temporarily. In any case one should not ignore it.

James

Jean-Marc

You have chosen what you want to do and what you were meant to do - a rare combination.

From planting vines to a family, you get to create and nurture and teach, all while learning.

My best wishes to you and yours.

c polinard

Praying hard from Dallas.

Leslie

Medication is a good thing to explore; for me it really helps to stay busy because the distraction smooths things out. Mais je vous souhaite un bon rétablissement!

Jackie

Love and blessings to you both.
Jackie

carole fitzgerald

Dear Kristin ,I am so saddened to hear of Jean- Marcs battle with depression. It does not matter how much you have to be grateful for, sometimes it doesn,t help .The depression can creep over you ,its beyond your control .A Dr could run run some tests including blood tests. I have great faith in Naturopaths.I send you and Jean Marc a big hug from Australia, Bonne Chance , Carole Fitzgerald. xxx

Michele

Like everything - every thought, feeling and emotion, good or bad - it will pass. Be patience and kindn to yourselves. Big hugs. xoxox

Mara

Depression Lies. It takes time and lots of strength to understand that when you are facing it down in the moment- I have found another blogger a true treasure when depression comes in to kick me - http://thebloggess.com/?s=depression+lies. Take care of yourself and let your family take care of you too.

Susan Stafford

Wishing you both well as you struggle with Jean-Marc's depression. It is a struggle to lift oneself out of it. Let others help and care for you both. Tenez bon et ne perdez pas d'espoir.

Christine Jones

Psalm 27:13
"I would have despaired if I had not believed that I would see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living."

John Hawke

One week from today I will be starting my Camino in Saint Jean Pied de Port. I will pray for you both as I make the journey. Keep moving forward and spend some time each day remembering the good times you've had.
Bless you
John

Shanne

A neutral ear--not in the middle of the family circle--can be helpful. Meds combined with talking to a therapist could help, too. I personally, need time away from routines to reinvigorate my positive feelings. Prayers for you both.

Julie Farrar

Since none of us have the magical powers to remove all obstacles our dear ones face, I always have fallen back on the words (in various forms). "I love you, now and forever." Of course, you already do that. So I direct you to Jenny Lawson's fabulously funny and honest website http://thebloggess.com/. When she disappears from the internet because of her crippling anxiety or depression, she always comes back long enough to remind all of her readers "Depression lies." That's the mantra she has taught us all. That's throughout her two memoirs. Bon courage and I'm sending a panier of love and prayers.

Sandy

Simplistic yes, but when I am struggling, I watch one of two videos on YouTube. There is a video of a group of dogs at the beach by Catmantoo. It is edited to Pharrell Williams' song "Happy" and it always makes me smile. And, there is a video, titled "Gratitude", that is part of a TedX talk by videographer Louis Schwartzberg. It always, always, always restores my balance. Thoughts, prayers to you and yours.

Judi

Kristi and Jean-Marc, I'm sure lots of people think your life is perfect because, honestly, who wouldn't love to live in Provence amidst such beauty? Of course just living in a pretty place does not make a perfect life, since we all have troubles, problems to solve, problems we can't solve, and above all, things we can't control. My best piece of advice today is this: take a moment to reflect on whatever story you're telling yourself about your life, and ask yourself if you would say such things to a friend, about his/her life. Chances are you are being harder on yourself than you would ever be to a friend. Many of us are our own worst critics, and we can change that. Kristi, I know you are good at taking a deep breath from time to time, when everything around you seems unmanageable and horrible, and re-focusing on what really matters. I think you are good at this because you practice! And w get better at this when we practice doing it. Whatever might seem impossible right now, do take that deep breath and imagine: what happens if I can't fix this? I bet you will find that you'll still have good things in your life (love, health, children, good food, sunshine) and whatever you can't fix right now might not be so consequential, and you are NOT deficient because you can't fix it. Love to you both!!

Suzanne Michaels

Dear Jean-Marc,

I am praying for you. I struggle with depression and know it has no schedule and can be mean. I am grateful for how transparent you and your dear wife are. I know it is not easy to be comforted during these times and remind myself that Jesus' hand is always there and waiting. Hold on to it and look into His eyes. He loves you.

Suzanne Michaels

John Patté

As a father whose daughter suffers from depression, characterized by drastic mood swings, and anorexia brought on in large part by depression, and who has attempted suicide, I know what it's like to see a loved one go through such an ordeal. There remains so much misunderstanding about this disease. Too often, as suggested in your post, the public attitude, which may be well-meaning, is "just get over it", "look how good you have it", and comments to that effect. But depression, and related diseases such as anorexia, are serious mental illnesses and need to be treated as such. As such, there is no "just get over it" - there is no reasoning with mental illness - and those thoughts and comments tend to do more harm than good. Medication may be necessary in severe cases but the love and positive support of those close to the sufferer are key. My best wishes to both of you. In Canada, an annual campaign has evolved funded by one of the phone companies called "Bell Let's Talk". It's about talking about mental illness and not hiding it away as if it were something to be ashamed of. Thank you for having the courage to share. You have encouraged others to talk, I'm sure.

Mark

Dear Kristin: Depression is a serious and potentially dangerous illness. Your husband needs professional therapy and potential medication. As much as you love him, you lack the objectivity (as any loving spouse would lack objectivity about the one they love) and professional training to get at the core of his illness. I understand there is reluctance among Mediterranean men to accept the notion of counseling, but you and others who support him should try and talk him into getting the help he needs.
I struggled with depression after the death of my first wife, but came through with the help of a grief counselor and a prescription of a mild antidepressant.

suejean

You have my complete sympathy; depression is so difficult to deal with as there is usually no obvious reason for it. Several of the comments have offered some good ideas and I hope something will work out for you.

Bonnie L

We are such fragile beings - the human condition. Sometimes life bowls us over with the immenseness of it all. You just have to hold on and remind yourself that this too shall pass. Take one day/hour/moment at a time. The yin & yang of life is such that great joy exists side-by-side with great sorrow.

Know that you are surrounded by love and that we care...

Julie

My prayers are with both of you.

Jeanne in Oregon

As a Christian, I find my comfort in the Word of God. The Bible tells us to think on good things, but we are mere flesh and depression makes it very difficult to put aside those negative things that pull us down. I will pray that Jean Marc is able to overcome this current stage of depression (this, too, shall pass) and agree with many of your other friends that have suggested therapeutic intervention and possible medication. Kittens and puppies and other babies are often helpful as well. Smiles and love from Oregon.

Andy

Jean Marc-

You and I are about the same age. I have struggled with depression all my life. It comes and goes, sometimes seemingly triggered by easily identifiable events, and other times apparently randomly. When I was younger, I called it "the funk" or "the darkness", long before I knew it by its medical name. It does not matter what people say, and while I can objectively appreciate their good will, I'd prefer they bugger off at the time.

What works for me is to startle myself out of it like you would a puppy about to piss on your rug. In other words, I find something new to focus my attention on. I start a fun new project or plan/take a trip. Perhaps even more importantly, I blow off something old...maybe even permanently. I find that thing that I always hate doing, that nags at me and hangs over my head, and I give it the boot. Sometimes that cones back to bite me, but even if it does, I'm almost always in a better place to handle it by then.

Amicalement,

Andy

Gerald M. Sullivan

Jean-Marc: Hang in there. I have recently been diagnosed as having similar problems. Humans are a very adaptive lot. Two suggestions are paramount: You have a great advocate in Kristi and nurture that wonderful better half. Secondly, stay close and work with medical professionals. Kristi will probably be a necessary filter for you. I don't know either you or Kristi but from what I read about you two - I enjoy who you are and what you do. Best wishes. Jerry.

Hazel

There are times - if ones genetics or biology get triggered - when depressions gets the upper hand. It can be a very dark place, a hole with slippery sides that feels impossible to climb out of...if one even has the desire to try. In my opinion, different types of therapy, mindfulness, friends, etc can help but I think anti-depressants are necessary friends. In my professional opinion, A visit to a good psychiatrist to get support through proper medication seems warranted and very important. Life is short. Do today what is necessary to claim the beauty of every day. I grew up with the saying: pray as if everything depends upon God, but act as if everything depends upon you.
Hugs and bonne chance.
Hazel

Dawn M Willey

Dear friend, Kristin, Amazing, isn't it, that so many of us are familiar with the awful burden of depression. I strongly agree with those comments suggesting blood testing and medication. This is a chemical imbalance and cannot be eliminated until the body has been 'reset' so to speak. I agree that a Naturopath or Wellness Dr. can offer the best solutions with natural supplements. I have had success with combinations of Dopamine, Sam-E and others. I have had lots of experience with anti-depressants and find there are a variety of ways to deal with this. Also, some of my problems had been amplified by food allergies and gut health (where dopamine and feel good stuff is generated). Blood testing should help.

All this aside, I will pray for Jean-Marc and you. Hopefully, he is not feeling he needs to 'tough it out'....

Cheri

Je te prie.

Linda

Sending a long, warm hug from North Carolina. Thanks to Kristi's open heart, you both have a world full of friends who care about you and love you. Hold on to each other, and seek the help you need. There is light at the other end.

Roger Anderson

Kristin,

I can only echo what many have already offered, I believe in prayer but I also know that professional talk therapy helps along with the appropriate antidepressant medication. I hope and pray that Jean-Marc has and will seek professional help.

Nancy Mulloy-Bonn

Depression is real. It is as real as any condition of the body. The mind is filed by the physical body. It is difficult when others cannot see that it is a real condition, not a mood that can be switched on and off at will. When I married, I was introduced to two family members who I characterized as lazy and unwilling to create their own happiness. How stupid I was. They had no more power to pull themselves up, alone and unaided, than they could have willed a badly broken bone to be fixed by willing it so, or to cure a cancer by sheer will. In my limited experience-- I am not a health professional-- a combination of talk therapy and pharmaceuticals that restore a possible chemical imbalance in the brain are often needed. It is a treatable condition which seems to run in families. Admitting that it is present is step one, and you are past that. I wish him restored health. From your writings, he is a very good man.

Lynne Chapman

Dear Kristi,

I just began reading your blog a few months ago, but really enjoy it. I've also been loving your book, "Words in a French Life."

My heart was touched especially by today's post. Many people are affected by depression and I admire you for being transparent about Jean-Marc's disease. I will certainly put all of your family on my prayer list! I know how challenging it is to watch someone you love suffering. 💔 Your steadfast love must be an anchor for your husband, so keep the faith and take good care of yourself as well.

I hope and pray that God directs you to the perfect care - be that medicine or therapy, etc. I remember running across Psalm 121 several times shortly before we found a great doctor who diagnosed our son's Asperger's. It reads, "I will lift up my eyes to the mountains; from where does my help come from? My help comes from the Lord, Who made heaven and earth." Praying God will be your help and comfort through this tough time!

Sincerely,
Lynne Chapman

MWTF

I agree with Cindy on both points, however the best thing I have done for myself in the last few years is taking time for yoga. Learning how to breathe, assess, and calm oneself is a gift. Going once a week to a slow, challenging and introspective class, has helped me more than even the above. It is all part of smoothing out the terrain to avoid the deep valleys...

There is no shame in having an illness.

Best to you all.

Jessie Kingston

My husband never would have even considered that the symptoms he was experiencing were due to depression until he took these quizzes online (they are from reputable sources):
Duke Health Profile (The Duke) 1989-2012 Dept of Community and Family Medicine, Duke Univ Medical Center

DSM -5 Self-Rated Level 1 Cross Cutting Symptom Measure-Adult 2013 American Psychiatric Assn

ADAA Anxiety and Depression Assn of America--Screening for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) ph # 240 485-1001

Once he took them and saw the results, he was then open to at least seeing a professional about the problem . He was started on a trial of serotonin uptake prescription medication that seems to help block out the "bad" thoughts or shorten their duration but it has only been a few weeks. He is not a "pill person" but we are so grateful for the ones that work or help when really needed.

I wish I could have given you direct links but know you are good on the computer and internet. Agree with others' comments that "toughing " it out or ignoring or discounting well -meaning loved ones' words of encouragement is not often the most effective course when significant depression exists.
Good Luck from a loyal reader and fan,
Jessie K.

Patrine

Jean Marc, you are loved. By Kristin, by your beautiful children ........and by a host of complete strangers including myself, who because of your generosity, have the privilege of a little window into your life.
Thinking of you all.
Patrine
xxxx

Melissa R Strait

Cher Kristin et Jean-Marc,
Reading all the comments previous to mine, I'm struck by the support and love that surrounds you from around the world. It's quite heartening to see, truly. I don't think you need to worry about trolls...your readers would absolutely demolish them!
As to Jean-Marc's struggle, I'm very sorry to hear about this. He has always been a shining example of what a husband/father SHOULD be. I guess no matter how long we've been given glimpses into your lives, we really don't know the deeper concerns or problems.
I've never had to struggle with this sort of problem...but I have friends who had. Talking to a professional and sometimes the use of antidepressants has helped them. And this may be too simplistic, but listening to ALL my favorite music seems to smooth the rough edges.
Many prayers and good energy to all of you.
Much love, Melissa

Angela George

Depression isn't something you "get over" like a cold. I have had several friends who have suffered from depression, 3 of them committed suicide. My Mediterranean family does not seek out counseling and that has been ingrained in me. I do now believe that counseling can be helpful, along with meds, under the supervision of a doctor/therapist. You can't make somone get help. You can be there for them, offering your love and support. The person himself/herself has to make the decision to move on either alone and/or with help that can be medical, spiritual, or whatever that person chooses.

Linda D.

Kristin,

I'm so glad you said something. You're not alone. Neither is Jean-Marc. I know how tempting it can be to crawl into my cave and not feel as if I am inflicting myself on those I love when I am depressed. It's more than just being sad. It's feeling numb. It's an unreasoning, unreasonable film across a day that steals my energy and blocks the light. When it happens, I remind myself that it is NOT permanent, and perhaps not necessarily even true. As several have said, depression lies. The tough part is believing that when it descends.

My four footed family helps alot in this regard. Not only do they offer non verbal unconditional love, but they need my attention: to feed them, attend to their needs, etc. They get my out of head and into my body. Love, connection and time help. And I hear my father's words: "This, too, shall pass."

I'm sending love and prayers. <3

Marjorie

Thank you. It is a gift to us that you shared that .

Diane N.

Kristi, you know the value of asking for help. I hope these replies are helping. I can't improve on what so many wise people have said here about depression. Its arrival has nothing to do with the quality of one's life or the strength of one's "willpower." As Churchill said, "if you're going through hell, keep going." And please be willing to consider help in the form of therapy and/or medication, which truly can make all the difference.
Thinking of you both. Thanks for all you give us.

Sandy

Prayers from Florida for both of you facing this mysterious and daunting illness. I hope the dark cloud lifts soon and the light returns.

Joella.meunier@meridianmt.com

Bonjour - J'ai eu la depression depuis vingt+ annees et j'ai pris le medicament. Il "takes off the edge". Aux etats unis, il y a encore "some stigma" au sujet des medicaments pour la depression. C'est tres stupide. Je vous en pris.... va a chez docteur. La vie peux etre mervieulleuse et on peut encore broyer de noir. Je connais. C'est une probleme physicale comme le diabetes. On doit avoir le confiance en Dieu, mais on doit faire son part. Avec amour dans la lumiere et le son de Dieu - Jo Ella

mswales622@gmail.com

One of the blessings of Jean Marc's depression, (and yes I find blessings in my sorrows), is the beautiful responses filled with compassion and understanding I've been reading this morning. We discovered the cause of my deep depression was hypothyroidism. It took 9 months to get it regulated with medication for the condition but I have.been fine ever since. I will be praying for you both. Try to keep it one day at a time. Maryellen 💞

Patricia Rafalko

Dear Krissi and Jean Marc,
Depression affects millions of people, and it is very debilitating. I myself have had bouts with it. Having such a strong support group, you and your children and many many followers who adore you all, will help. Try to read all the positive letters that will come flooding in. I know this may sound simple, but a walk in the sunshine helped me better then all those anti depressants I was prescribed. Happy music playing instead of depressing news did wonders. I also forced my face to smile, and eventually it made its way to my heart. Also my love from my family with all the hugs I could stand.... I am sending you all a bunch of "cyber" hugs, and Jean Marc you are on my prayer chain, all of you.
Be strong, Patricia

Jill

Sending love, prayers and support ❤️

Colette

My own dear husband spun into a depression a couple of years ago. He was able to talk to a therapist and temporarily took some anti-depressant medication to help adjust the chemical imbalance in his system. Several years ago, I also had several depressive episodes, and was able to come out of them with counseling and temporary meds. The pain Jean-Marc is feeling is real, and it crushes the joy right out of him. It is NOT his fault, nor anyone elses's. It just IS. If it were diabetes, you'd get help to correct the problem; depression is no different.

I also find that working up a sweat through exercise helps create the natural anti-depressants in my body - endorphins. I highly recommend whatever Jean Marc loves to do - whether it's running, dance, kickboxing, biking....do it ! Your body and mind will thank you.

Tu mérites d'être heureux, et ta famille aussi. Prends soin de ton bien-être , car la vie est belle, mais bien trop courte pour ne pas pouvoir en profiter au maximum.

Kris

Dear Kristin. We had to leave France because of my husbands depression. You know how superior French health care is but my husbands French and our insurance wasn't up to therapy tho we tried. Four years later he is not much better. He has had electro convulsive shock therapy and talk therapies and medicaments and hospitalization. He says have jean mark get an fmri which he can't get here but should be available to you. Whatever you do, as you know, don't make light of it or expect it to cure itself. He needs lots of help. Our docs ( west of Toulouse) were right up to speed so I'm sure yours are too. Somehow let us know how you're doing and if we can help. A friend of ours was put in the hospital in perigueux and is now perfectly fine but it took some time

Bissous

Lisa McDonnell

I'm praying for Jean-Marc and you too, dear Kristin.

Susan

In 2001 I was a Boston based flight attendant with American Airlines. The plane that hit the Trade Center was AA #11. I knew all the flight attendants and the pilots on that flight and I had worked that trip many, many times. Many of us suffered post traumatic stress and depression after the events of September 11th. One does not have to live with PTSD or depression for a lifetime. I take a small does of Celexa every morning and it has helped me tremendously. I suggest that Jean Marc have a complete blood workup to rule out any physical disorders and then find a drug that works for him with the depression. It may take trying different ones to find the one that helps him. He does not have to suffer a lifetime!
Susan

Judith Cheney

Dear Jean-Marc, Depression is a universal disease suffered by so many, even the great Winston Churchill who led & inspired his own nation & the world while fighting against his own "Black Dog" (as he called it ) periodically throughout. I believe it is necessary to get professional help & medication while allowing your loved ones to support & comfort you. The vines, the biking trails, & your beloved Kristi & wonderful family & friends are all there awaiting your recovery. Which I hope will come soon & send every good wish for that. Judith C. in Asheville, North Carolina

Martha V

My older brother once had a guru in NYC. Muni Shree Chitrabhanu is a Jain. He spoke about hardships.
I am paraphrasing....
I do not pray to be spared from hardships. Rather, I pray to have the courage to meet each new hardship; my soul is like a piece of clay that the potter subjects to the high temperatures of the kiln to make it strong.

I hope this helps. I pray for Jean Marc that he find the strength to meet his challenges, however he defines them at this time.

Martha

Georgette

I have been given a great gift to have been a reader of your blog for well over a decade but have never been moved to leave a comment until today. You have let us into your lives. We have watched you all grow, evolve as a family with all life's joys and struggles. We have all either been depressed or have known someone who has suffered. Today we feel your pain and wish Jean Marc a quick journey through this challenging time. Bon courage. Bon courage. On vous aime. On vous embrasse très fort.

Vicki Ford

Kristi and Jean-Marc,
You are loved and not alone in this difficult illness.
I wish that I was there to give you a big hug.
I will be praying for both of you.

Kimberley

Bonjour vous deux - ALL SHALL BE WELL... La vie est comme ça. Toujours, une chose. Courage!!! Demain sera differente comme auhourd'hui. Believe in Amour, et amour, et amour...

 Alexis

My daughter is 45 and she has suffered from depression since she was in her early 20s. I have no solution, and neither does she. Just know that you and he did not cause this and you cannot cure it. Therapy and medication have helped her, but she is not "cured."

Your love and support are very important, and I know that you'll always be there for him.

Diane Scott

No platitude can lift someone from the shadow of depression. I know. I have suffered with it for many years. It is me and I am it. In that sense I must accept myself and love myself just the way I am. Not always successful, but others with diseases of myriad sorts suffer worse. The problem is that Depression (yes, with a capital "D") is still considered a personal weakness not worthy of society's sympathy. Oh, well. Sometimes I just say, "I feel, therefore I heal." I think of you two every day, even though I have not written in years. I still cherish "Pear." Peace to you.

Love,
Diane

Ron

Jean-Marc -

Whether you end up trying SSRIs or another form of treatment, please do something. I have been down that same dark road as well. At one point drugs helped immensely, but the side effects can be bad. Eventually I got off all that stuff and am now much better. I don't know if they helped "reset" my brain or what, but understand that there is help of all sorts (as noted by many kind posters above...) available.

My thoughts are with you and Kristi....

Joy Bryden

Your loving support and the beauty of Spring, the newly planted vineyard,your family, I picture them surrounding dear Jean-Marc with hope. I have no words of advice, can only send wishes that this too shall pass. I do believe it helps to know others truly care, and we do.
Joy

Larry Mason

I don't have any direct experience to share (lucky me), but Sarah and I send our very best wishes for a quick recovery, Jean-Marc.

Nancy Tseng

When I was depressed, nothing ever went in my ears. But I discovered that in giving sincerely and gratefully, I found happiness. It's like a healing process to me, the more I give, the more therapeutic reflections I gain. All the best, Jean-Marc. Blessings to you.

Adrienne

You are not alone. We hold your hand in this part of your journey.Wrap your arms around another living creature, be it your wife, your child or your pup and breathe in the loving energy that is life. Courage to you. With loving kindness, Adrienne

Audrey Wilson

So many great letters here , that there is little I can say different,but paste this which was on one of my Facebook friend's page
In support of everyone I know who's wrestled with the black dog....Yes depression is relentless. A lot of us have been close to that edge, and some have lost friends and loved ones. Let's look out for each other and stop sweeping mental illness under the rug. If I don't see your name, I'll understand. May I ask my friends wherever you might be, to kindly copy and paste this status for one hour to give a moment of support to all those who have family problems, health struggles, job issues, worries of any kind and just need to know that someone cares. Do it for all of us, for nobody is immune. Hope to see this on the walls of all my family and friends just for moral support. I know some will!!! I did it for a friend and you can too. Xx

Maureen Winterhager

So sorry, Kristi.......those photos of you show the darlingest, most adorable couple!!
Try and get your Jean Marc to do a systemic family therapy à la Hellinger......it is most effective. I and my husband have done several sessions and it is an amazingly powerful tool. Successful results. It is particularly good for depression.......Read up on it......it's far quicker than a gazillion sessions on the couch......and it gets to the root of the problem fast.....
I can vouch for it personally.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Constellations

Danielle

Jean-Marc and Kristi,
It can be so difficult to seek help during the dark times. I encourage you to do so. Medication, meditation (focussing on the breath and sometimes guided loving kindness meditation), and talk therapy can all be helpful. My heart goes out to you. I am praying for you both.

Debra Houston

It gets better eventually, as Jean-Marc knows. The important thing is not to allow it to spiral out of control. It seems to compound if untreated. I hope you and Jean-Marc will make time for yourselves and relax. I've read your blog for 10 years. Is that possible? 10 years! You inspire me with your writing and for the love you express for your family. Thank you. Keep your chin up and know we readers love you and are praying for you.

Jeanne

I agree totally with Mark. The right therapist can do wonders, and he would advise about the frequency of the visits.
Perhaps he already has a therapist.. You certainly need professional help at a time like this. And temporary medications help, too.

Brenda

I totally understand this special kind of pain. A new way to possibly look at this is to do some reasearch (Google) BRAIN GUT CONNECTION. There is a real coorlation between gut health and depression. Also in the same vane brain INFLAMMATION and depression. Hope this offers some hope and help. I have follwed a special diet and it has been life changing. Bonne chance et bissous

Angela

Kristi,so much kindness offered to you by your readers/friends. Jean-Marc will find his way through this with you and maybe professional help.
Thinking of you both xx

Mary

Here are all my best resources regarding depression (and I am not a doctor or therapist, just someone who cares and believes in the power of words and communication):

The book JOURNEY OF SOULS by Michael Newton, Ph.D.

The description of depression in the book GLOSSARY OF QUANTUMPATHIC TERMS by Sherry Anshara:
"An emotion that is the deepest disappointment in one's own self. While events leading to depression become particles of experience stored in the soul by the body, they may be changed and healed through energy. Drugs mask or minimize depression but only conscious energy can transform it by finding and igniting the 'ability' within this 'disability."

www.acestudy.org

Diane Young

My prayers will definitely be with Jean Marc. I had clinical depression back in my late 20's and had extensive treatment. I celebrated my 80th birthday two weeks ago, and it wasn't at all depressing! Nobody can understand someone else's mental and emotional world, except for God, so prayer is definitely recommended. My husband was very supportive as I know you are. That's very important. He never tried to give me advice, but always gave me love. Blessings on you both as you work on coping and hopefully transcending one of life's greatest challenges.

Linda R.


Chère Kristin,
Thank you so much for your prayers on behalf of my family when my husband was ill. Please know that prayers are being sent your way. Psaume 121:1 est un vers favori, c'est peut-être pourquoi j'habite si près des montagnes - je peux voir chaque jour la majesté de Dieu.

odb.org /ministeresnpq.org est un website qui vient chez moi chaque matin. Lisant ces méditations me fait penser aux vers de psaume 1:1-2 - the words center me in the midst of daily life.
Much love and prayers to your family.



Mary

Oh and by the way, I am sending love directly in your direction from Arizona and sending up prayers to that place...wherever they go...for you, Jean-Marc, your family, extended family, friends, readers of this blog and to all of humanity. My belief is that life here on Earth is a great gift that sometimes is slow to unwrap, but always appropriate for the receiver.

Susan

Pray and get help. Sometimes its chemical and meds are needed to correct. I know. Been there, did that and back again.
Sincerely,
Susan
PS-so sorry--it's very hard on our spouses who care so much and makes us feel even more guilty for hurting them and our pets and kids with mood swings.

Herm iin Phoenix,AZ

Salut Kristi,

Bon chance a vous et Jean-Marc!

The phrase, “It’s all in your head, get over it” is NONSENCE! The problem is real.

The condition “Seasonal Affective Disorder” (S.A.D.) is normally a winter/short day’s condition, but there are documented cases of summer S.A.D . . . just a possibility.

For winter SAD, light therapy does work. Anti-depression drugs can make it worse. Doctors in the northern regions are very familiar with this condition; many doctors in the warmer climates may never have had to treat this condition.

Herm

Elizabeth

I have glance at the above comments and suggestions but I believe in diet we have had a similar situation and I found two very helpful sites on the net. Firstly ' wellnessmama ' and secondly ' culturefoodlife ' both are inspiring and you have nothing to lose. I believe that our bodies lack mother earth's minerals everything is in our own surrounding and garden for healing, quite times love and gentleness slow things down a little. You have been such an inspiration , jean-marc and your adorable family I know that we are all praying for you. Elizabeth

junemaree21@yahoo.co.uk

What precious photos of you both and what a blessing that you are both together to comfort, console and cherish each other in times such as these. Your love for each other is a light than shines for us and I pray that Jean Marc will feel the loving energy that is sent with these words and all the messages of support and feel uplifted.

We all join hands together to surround you both with love and strength.

June

Janice

I just finished a book about meditation and it addresses depression and the benefits of meditation in one of the chapters. It's a quick read called "Start Here Now" by Susan Piver and might be of help. Thinking about you and Jean-Marc.

Elle

When I read your post this morning, I immediately sat down to write to you. As a mother of an adult child with anxiety and depression, I know something of the struggle. Bravo to you Kristi, for sharing your life with Jean Mac. My son is in a good space now and I attribute that to medication, talking to a therapist and the love and support of his wife.

I know it is hard to see your husband in such pain. This may take a toll on you too, so it's important to take care of yourself. Are there any support groups there?

eliana

keep busy.....very, very busy....all the time, commit yourself seriously with lots and lots of different things
time passes, you'll see after a period that le noir has gone, aussi.god bless you.

Diane Kish

Dearest Kristin,
My prayers are with you and your family. My suggestion is for Jean Marc to have a complete physical with blood work to rule out any situations in his body. With medical attention and your love and support he will have better days ahead.

Rosalie

Write it out. I've also had periods of depression throughout my life due to several factors, the most significant of which was after my husband was jailed in Iran many years ago. There is a book, Expressive Writing, Words That Heal, by James Pennebaker, that's helped me a lot. Therapy is always good, exercise, and sometimes medication. However, writing the story of sad can be therapeutic. If Jean-Marc isn't even a writer, I'd suggest at least trying some of the very simple exercises, then throw them away. They can begin a slow release.

Josephine

Chers Kristi and Jean-Marc,
I hope you find the numerous responses as comforting as I have; surely you see that we are not alone in the experience of depression.
My advice would be to start with the least invasive approach, talk therapy and natural supplements. A knowledgeable professional can guide you. If this does not alleviate the symptoms, then continue on to medications. Many of us suffer from a chemical imbalance. One would not deny a diabetic his/her insulin; the same thinking should apply to depression caused by a chemical imbalance.
Take the steps you need to take, and you will arrive at a resolution.
In the meanwhile, you are certainly lifted by prayer and positive thoughts from around the world!
Courage à vous deux.
Josephine

Lanier

We are all of us subject to the whims of our own brain soup. Some days the recipe is perfect and we feel great. Other days important ingredients just aren't there and the soup is awful. People can tell you to focus on the good things in your life, but it won't change the soup. Just like with the soup on your stove you have to eat it because it's all you've got and you're hungry. So most advice is basically useless and only makes the giver feel like they're doing something helpful.
There is one book I've read recently that might be interesting for you as well -"Hard Wiring Happiness."

Some can change the soup with Yoga and other physical activities. I'm a yoga teacher and many of my students find it helps them with depression. Other than that we all need love, acceptance and understanding. Sometimes that's easy to give, sometime not. Cut yourselves some slack and embrace the imperfections.

Susan Veronica Rak

Many comments with heartfelt advice... may I add a bit more.
Depression not only affects the persons suffering from it, but all those around them. And as others have said, telling someone to "buck up", "look on the bright side", "count all your blessings" is not helpful. He cannot do those things. And if this is being addressed with therapy - talk or medicinal or both - those surrounding him do so with love and god-knows how much patience... the most crucial things to be there, even if it feels like doing nothing and even if it is hard as hell to witness. I'm speaking from personal experience with a seriously depressed ex-husband and after that, my young adult daughter. And wisdom from a powerful book by Andrew Solomon, The Noonday Demon http://andrewsolomon.com/books/the-noonday-demon/
holding you all in caring thoughts & prayers...
Susan

Cathleen Hoffman

MARCH 31, 2012 BY PATHWRITER
those who’ve fallen through ~mark nepo
Lyn Hartley is an independent educator who lives in the wilds of the Yukon. She tells the story of two skiers crossing a frozen lake at night. Sliding through the snow with flashlights, they came upon a moose fallen through the ice. The enormous creature was stuck shoulder high. It was clear the moose couldn’t get out and they alone couldn’t pull it out. The temperature was dropping. So they stayed through the night and, though the moose resisted, they covered it with their tent; settling in to shine their small lights on its face and on the edges of broken ice, to keep the ice from freezing into shards that would cut the moose. In the morning, when the sun reappeared, they went for help. Together they roped the moose and slowly pulled it to the edge till it could find its own way out.

This is a powerful metaphor for how to listen to and be with those who have fallen through: stay close and keep them warm, resisting the urge to prematurely solve the situation. If nothing can be done, sit with them, resisting the urge to abandon those who seem stuck. Offer your tent and stay with them long enough till the way out presents itself, not forcing a rescue. How I need to hear this. For life is long enough that we will have our turn at falling through and being stuck, and at coming upon the fallen not knowing what to do.

I love how we root in the earth and sprout in the world. I love how I learn from others as we find our original face. I admit that I need everyone when I fall through. I confess that I need to hold nothing back when I come upon you struggling in the hole of your own making. How I need the skill of heart that lets love meet truth like small lights on ice. In the truth of each other, there is a way out.

~Mark Nepo, Three Intentions blog

Hi Kristin:
Mark Nepo has a book entitled “Awakening” which I bought through Amazon.com. If you cannot order from your home, I will be happy to order one and mail it to you. It is filled with wisdom, love, and understanding. Everyone has time of low energy and depression. It is just important to remember that it is not permanent and will pass just like other extreme emotions. Rest, hug each other, embrace the simple in life and depression will pass. It will pass. It will pass. It will pass. Tell Jean Marc to be kind to himself and embrace those who love him. Also, talk with a physician. Sometimes a short time with medication can ease the path. Let me know if you want me to mail this beautiful book to you. It would be my pleasure. It might be good to join Mark’s blog….Three Intentions blog. Encouragement when you need it.
Hugs and encouragement,
Cathi Hoffman

kotkula@verizon.net

Dearest Kristin and Jean-Marc,

At a recent gathering of activists, one woman asked me if I was OK, as I looked sad. I answered, "it's just depression." She nodded. This was a bit more than compassion-fatigue that we feel when overwhelmed with powerlessness in the face of gross injustice.

I inherited mine. Sometimes I do as our Buddhist teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh (also referred to as Thay) recommends, speak to it, and, in my case, speak to the mother who passed it on. Nurture the one who wasn't nurtured. My mother, and subsequently, me.

Pema Chödrön adds to Buddhist wisdom/compassion, so I reach for her books when I need a pull up, as well. She can hit a raw nerve, sometimes followed by humor, which can untie a deep knot of suffering and add insight.

Thich Nhat Hanh has a monastery, called Plum Village -- Village des Pruniers -- it is near Thénac. It is worth considering. Website: plumvillage.org.

It is most primitive, and ironically, surrounded by vineyards, though these Buddhists don't imbibe. I experienced great peace when I went there, and if you are lucky enough to pick a time when there is a retreat or teaching, I will be jealous.

It's not about religion - it's about Mindfulness. Staying with that practice, attention to the breath, gives meaning to suffering as well as a way to cope.

With a deep bow of love and compassion,
Kate O'Kula, Rhode Island

Margie

Winston Churchill suffered all his life from the 'black dog." No one knew that either....so he is not alone.

Medication and even exercise might help. A good long run.

Counting your blessings each and every day ....and you all have many....might bring him over to the sunny side.

Wish you all the best.

Jacquelyn

So many warm and good thoughts above, so not much to add except that I really appreciated reading the graphic novel Hyperbole and a Half - humour on a black subject, told from the perspective of someone struggling with depression. http://www.page45.com/store/Hyperbole-And-A-Half.html#SID=330
Sending warm wishes and caring for you both and for your family that you all break free soon of depression's blackness.

Bruce Lane

Hi Christie,
First thing is cardiovascular exercise, walks that get the heart rate up, you want to work up to an hour daily if that is not attainable now. Read Younger Next Year as the doctor explains that low level depression is a part of our seasonal evolutionary nature. Exercise kicks us out of our seasonal depression. And works on deeper depression too. Tell Jean-Marc that he is needed and loved by his family, friends, vines, wines and everyone who has met him, as we did at your domaine in September 2011. May the light come in soon.

Bruce, Procter, BC

Gary

There is a documentary called..the secret..you all might watch that...couldn't hurt. ..Gary

Julia

It is kind of strange to read your post today, as I just wrote about my depression on my own blog (it is in german - sorry but if you are interested I can summerize it for you into English). I was so far down the last 2 weeks as I hadn't been for a long time. Although I was off my medication for about a year I started taking them again. Depressions aren't just hard to deal with for the one who has them but also for the ones around you. Something that does help me a little bit is knowing that the depression is just ONE side of me. So when I am in my dark hole I try to get get to the other sides of me that are there. It is like being locked in a dark room and not being able to find the key. Another thing my therapist recommended was tapping... I am not sure if that is the correct word in English but you tap certain points on your body to get the brain into a different mode.
I have slowly come out of my depression and being in Malta at the moment did help a lot. I hope your husband will get better soon.
Wishing you a lot of strength and hope,
Julia

Barbara Bricks

Not sure I have anything different to add to the comments given. However, years ago, when diagnosed with depression, I reluctantly began taking antidepressants. And I was amazed when I noticed one day that I could think clearly and was able to make decisions. I would recommend a thorough physical exam and be open to a dr.'s recommendation (assuming that you are seeing a dr. you trust). If Jean Marc has been experiencing this all of his life, in my opinion, neither you nor he can talk him out of the dark space, that it is a chemical imbalance in his brain. It does take time to find the right medicine; different things work for different people. For me, a pill gave me my life back and I've never looked back.

Mishou

I know people will roll their eyes when they read this post, but I swear to you it is true. Per my neurologist's and gastroenterologist's prescriptions, I went on a gluten-free diet to rid myself of migraines. It worked! However, to my great surprise and relief, it also rid me of my debilitating depression. That and daily walks have helped me more than any of the antidepressants I tried (I tried many--most of them gave me more headaches!).

I'm married to a Frenchman (from Brittany) so I can attest to how hard it is (le pain, le vin, et le Boursin! after all) but within a month of trying it, even he was convinced it was the right thing for me to do.

Best wishes to you...it's a long, lonely road, but eventually you will find the light at the end of the tunnel.

Linda Rubin

Depressin can be temporary or seemingly permanent. I have Stage 4 Pancreatic Cancer and part of my treatment puts me " into depression" for about 48 hours at which time I tell people I just want to put a bullet to my head and get the dying part over already.
When the medical effects of this particular drug wears off, so do depressive thoughts.
Being told my life will be short and ever 2 week chemotherapy would potentially depress anyone. I am not a depressed person, but this challenge to undergo chemo every two weeks until it no longer works is a struggle.
What has saved me is a combination of love of friends and family( now more than ever a life partner would help) but I don't have one, what I do have are my love sources, friends, people who tell me and show me they love me, and with whom I am free to fall apart as needed.
When trying to survive, we must reach deep into our personal survival tool box. Mine includes meditation and psychtherapy as needed.
I had planned to move to Paris prior to my diagnosis, where I have friends and a life,that's been an adjustment.
Please investigate Meditation, and talk therapy as often as needed, and prescribed medication. Life can be difficult, I try to reduce suffering because,ultimately it doesn't help. I wish you well,linda

kotkula@verizon.net

PS:

I might also add, in addition to the practice in Buddhism, that yes, medication and therapy are wonderful aides, for which I am most grateful, as well as for the dear friends described so well in the note above about the people under the tent with the moose. So beautifully expressed. My more banal way of putting that might have been something like, well, some days you're the dog, some days you're the tree. No, I didn't write that.... yes, I did... hope you got a chuckle.

Trina, St. Petersburg, Florida, USA

Writing to Heal was so popular it ran out of print. My graduate research centered on writing as a healing and self-actualization practice and my decision to follow that direction was greatly spurred by Pennebaker's research. His book has now been reprinted, so is once again affordable. http://journaltherapy.com/journaltherapy/journal-cafe-3/pennebaker-book Additionally, here is Dr. Pennebaker’s University of Texas - Austin webpage “Writing and Health”
http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/HomePage/Faculty/Pennebaker/Home2000/WritingandHealth.html
Kristi, I will also send you the link to my graduate work site page where I wrote about my experience using his method. Just a thought. JM may detest writing, who knows?

Tom Donnellan

Kristi n Jean Marc.
Just read your blog now in Melbourne while visiting from Dublin. The responses reflect the compassion of humanity that doesn't receive broadcast time. The awareness followed by medical and cognitive therapies are available. The stigma is being demolished worldwide and your openness is contributing to its demise. You are not alone and our sharing through blogs and fora is diminishing the isolation of sufferers and their families. Twenty five years ago I couldn't function as per my norm for a period but with awareness, consideration. Medication and CBT I adapted and functioned in good average fashion since and hopefully for years to come. A bientot cheres amis. (from mobile pls excuse typos)

Patricia Flynn

Les prières pour vous

Adele Frances

Dear Jean-Marc,

I am sure you will receive many letters and I hope they will encourage you at a time of bleakness. I am a depressive, my mother was also, and my daughter struggles with it as well. It’s a genetic thing and has little to do with your ability to appreciate your many gifts in life. But there are ways of learning to cope….. About 24 years ago I had a complete breakdown with depression and anxiety (after suffering from depression on and off during my marriage) and spent two years in and out of mental hospitals from ages 45-47. I barely survived an attempt to end my life thru an overdose of medication. As a result of my hospitalizations, I have lived with bi-polars, multiple personalities and other depressives in several hospitals and gotten to study mental illness, my own and others’, up close and personal. (This is ironic, as I’d just gotten my Masters in Counseling before my breakdown, but I always tell people I got my Ph.D in Applied Suffering at Shepherd-Pratt Mental Hospital.)

There are no easy words of encouragement, as you know, when it comes to depression. But since I’ve walked that road, I think I’m in a good place to say a few things The good news is that for the last 24 years I’ve been free of clinical depression. I take my daily Prozac, have worked hard over the years to change some thought patterns that helped to do me in mentally, and have carved out a life as free from stress as humanly possible so that things don’t tip me over the edge.

These are a few of the things that I have learned over time (now 71 and happily retired): First, depression is a shame-based illness, and we want to isolate from the world to stew in our feelings of worthlessness. The fact that you allowed Kristi to share your depression is immensely healthy and bodes well for you. A large part of my recovery consisted of talking to people individually and publicly about my depression to reduce the shame attached. When people can open up about this, it starts to let the sunshine of healthy thinking and feeling arrive.
Second, I think the most important thing (beyond the right medication and professional treatment—if you’re lucky enuf to have that) is the support of people who love you. Having wanted to die for two years, I can say the turning point for me was seeing the unconditional support from friends and family who thought my life was worth living. In my blackness, I could not see that at all, but I learned to trust their judgment. It probably saved my life. But the irony of depression is that we tend to isolate and cut off support from others, so overcoming that tendency takes great will and strength at a time of terrible weakness. I know you have a great support system and I hope you’re leaning on it.

Third, I let the Earth help heal me, and I suspect you do the same. In my last hospital, I was allowed to walk the beautiful grounds, observe nature, collect raspberries, listen to music and sketch wildflowers beside a running stream. I give Mother Earth more credit than I do the doctors, and I saw that birth, growth and death are a natural part of things and that I am part of that process. She helped to heal me without saying a word, and working in my garden today reminds me of Her saving grace.

Finally, I had a dr. who told me that this depression had a beginning, a middle and will have an end, and somehow the word “end” kept me going until his words came true. I worked hard to defeat the internal voices that put myself down and learned to love myself for who I am, flaws and all. And I am deeply grateful for each day that I feel joy instead of despair. My wish for you is that you have the same blessings that were given me. I know all too well the paths you have walked, and I pray for you and everyone who suffers from depression.


Know that there are many of us out here cheering you on and knowing that better days lie ahead for you. In the meantime, never give up You are loved.

And a word for Kristi. Being the partner of someone who suffers from depression is almost as bad as having the illness yourself. The helplessness you feel of wanting to solve the problem for someone you love deeply and learning you can’t is one of life’s hardest lessons. (Ask my ex-husband….) Again, no easy answers here. But I know that Jean-Marc knows and appreciates your love even when he can’t be there in the way he’d like to be, and that you both have to lean on your faith in something greater during these times. Hang in there. I wish you both well.

Amicalement,
Adele Frances
Albuquerque, NM

PS. I am learning French but still a beginner. Someday perhaps I can write my sentiments in French, your beautiful language!

heather

Hi Kristi,
YES, let's discuss depression and bring it out into the light. Thank you for being bold! I am plagued with depression, as well, (it could be the Scottish genes:) and i have tried many strategies: anti-depressants for a little bit, talk therapy, happy lights, holistic helpers, fresh air and exercise, yoga, meditation, etc.) While i feel all of those things can be wonderfully helpful, it is for the most part brain chemistry not the philosophical mind in action. Please tell Chief Grape he is NOT alone. Here is what i would like to say to him. . . Most people who have this affliction are extremely sensitive humans(and this is a beautiful quality)they see, hear, and feel deeply. Over decades, I have learned when it hits hard to "stay with it" (not run from it) until it passes--the same way you would stay with a good friend who was grieving a loss. Simply Sit with them. Go ahead feel the sadness or exhaustion, journal,draw or paint, talk to loved ones -- only if you want, be alone in nature, watch sad movies (or comedies) or whatever YOU feel like. It is no different from any illness like a flu, love yourself through it -- and never ever be ashamed. I too have a lovely home, garden, husband and family, but my dark days come and it is what it is. And. . . it is perfectly alright to admit. Hope this helps a tiny bit. Blessing to you all!

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